Q. Tell me about your leadership style now.
I don’t really believe in firing people. Although it’s necessary at times, nine times out of 10 it’s usually a hiring problem. Nobody likes to fire people, so I try hard not to have to get to that point.
I see it all the time, where somebody is brought into a role because we need to fill it quickly, and we kind of take a pass on checking whether they’ll fit into our culture. But when you fire someone, not only does it hurt the person, but it hurts their family, it hurts the co-workers who liked that person, and it creates fear. So there’s all sorts of damaging ripple effects.
I like to say that nobody ever comes up with a brilliant idea while they’re being chased by a lion. You need to create an environment where people can be themselves. So now when we hire, we’re really cautious. We have a hiring manager, and there are also four of us who screen for cultural fit.
I look at people’s aspirations, such as where they want to get to, and then I figure out how to get them as close to that as possible. Once I do that, then their productivity goes up dramatically because all of a sudden they’re doing something they like.
I’m also very direct about what I expect from people. People know that I’m going to say it how it is, and I’ll tell people how I think they should be doing better.
I found that I learned the most from managers who told me the really tough things that I didn’t want to hear. So I tell people I’m mentoring that there’s one rule when we meet: Put on your Teflon. If you really want to grow and you want to learn, put on your Teflon because I’m going to tell you things that nobody else is telling you.